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May 10, 9:35 PM EDT
Appeals court in Va. hears health care cases
By LARRY O'DELL
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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A federal appeals panel dominated by appointees of President Barack Obama heard arguments Tuesday in two Virginia lawsuits challenging his health care overhaul.
The three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals vigorously questioned lawyers on both sides, but the most spirited exchanges focused on the central issue in both cases: whether the law's requirement that individuals buy insurance is constitutional. Federal judges in Virginia split on that question in the lawsuits, one filed by Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli and the other by Liberty University.
The 14-member court uses a computer program to randomly select its panels, and Obama could hardly have wished for a better outcome. He appointed two of the judges, Andre M. Davis and James A. Wynn Jr. The other was Judge Diana Gribbon Motz, an appointee of former President Bill Clinton.
"They were aggressive in both directions for both sides, so I don't draw any great concern about that," Cuccinelli said at a news conference after the hearings.
The Richmond-based 4th Circuit has historically been viewed as the nation's most conservative appeals court, but recent Democratic appointments have steered it more toward the ideological center - a trend that was in evidence in the packed courtroom Tuesday.
"This was certainly a favorable draw for the government," said Kevin Walsh, an assistant professor of law at the University of Richmond who attended the hearings. "All three judges appeared more skeptical of the challengers' argument and more accepting of the federal government's."
Liberty attorney Mathew Staver, like Cuccinelli, downplayed the makeup of the panel.
"I don't think it should matter at the end of the day whether they are appointed by Republicans or Democrats, conservative or liberal," he said. "There is no case in our history that forces a person to buy a product, and that's the question they're going to have to wrestle with."
Thirty-one lawsuits have been filed challenging the law, and nine of those have been appealed, but the two Virginia cases are the first to reach the argument stage in a federal appeals court. The judges are expected to rule within a few weeks.
In what amounted to a dress rehearsal for the U.S. Supreme Court, which both sides agree will have the final word, Staver and Virginia Solicitor General Duncan Getchell Jr. argued that Congress exceeded its authority under the Constitution in requiring individuals to buy health insurance. U.S. Acting Solicitor General Neal Kumar Katyal argued in both cases that the mandate is a valid exercise of congressional authority under the Commerce Clause.
Liberty, which opposed the law as an employer that would be affected by its provisions, is appealing U.S. District Judge Norman Moon's ruling upholding it. The Justice Department is appealing U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson's decision striking down the insurance mandate in the case filed by Cuccinelli. Hudson left the rest of the voluminous health care law intact.
The appeals panel focused on the individual mandate in the Liberty appeal, which it heard first, and devoted most of its attention in the second case to the question of whether Virginia had standing to sue based on a state statute that was passed to circumvent the federal law.
Staver told the panel that the federal law exceeds the bounds of the Commerce Clause by regulating "economic inactivity" - a person's decision not to buy a product. He said the law "forces inactive bystanders into the stream of commerce."
But Katyal said people are already involved in commerce as consumers of health services, and that's what the law regulates. The only question is who pays for the services, he said, and the law aims to reduce the $45 billion a year in health care costs run up by the uninsured. Those costs add about $1,000 a year to the average family premium of those who do buy insurance, Katyal said.
Staver said that if the government can force people to buy insurance, it also can force them to buy other products - healthy foods or a gym club membership, for example, if the government determines that obesity is a major problem. He said "there would be no limit" to what the government could require citizens to buy.
However, Wynn suggested that Staver's claim overlooks a key point in the government's argument - that virtually everyone, at some time, will consume health care services.
"You can't make the argument that, in the aggregate, people are going to be obese or unfit," he said.
In the morning's second hearing, Getchell Jr. said the Virginia General Assembly had a right to pass a law declaring that the state's citizens could not be compelled by the government to buy insurance. He said the authors of the Constitution intended for the federal courts to be arbiters of such conflicts over state sovereignty.
"If federal court is not the forum, there's no forum," he said.
Katyal said that if Virginia's tactic is allowed to stand, states will be able to pass laws exempting their citizens from the war in Afghanistan, paying Social Security taxes or any other federal policy they don't like.
The cases could reach the Supreme Court in time for a decision by early summer 2012.
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Associated Press Writer Dena Potter contributed to this report.
© 2011 The Associated Press.
May 10, 9:35 PM EDT
Appeals court in Va. hears health care cases
By LARRY O'DELL
Associated Press
AP Photo/Steve Helber
US Video
Advertisement
Multimedia
2010 health care poll
PDF copy of 13 Republican AGs threatening lawsuit
Nov. 2009 poll: Americans on health care
Health care overhaul
Efforts to stay young
Family joins in weight-loss camp experience
Alternatives for common food allergens
Wii therapy
Documents
AMA's Guidelines for Patient-Physician E-mail
Latest News
SPIN METER: On health care, it's Newt vs. Newt
Analysis: Romney makes tough choice on health care
Romney: Mass. health law differs from Obama's
Obama plan for health care quality dealt a setback
Study: Care costs continue brisk growth in 2011
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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A federal appeals panel dominated by appointees of President Barack Obama heard arguments Tuesday in two Virginia lawsuits challenging his health care overhaul.
The three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals vigorously questioned lawyers on both sides, but the most spirited exchanges focused on the central issue in both cases: whether the law's requirement that individuals buy insurance is constitutional. Federal judges in Virginia split on that question in the lawsuits, one filed by Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli and the other by Liberty University.
The 14-member court uses a computer program to randomly select its panels, and Obama could hardly have wished for a better outcome. He appointed two of the judges, Andre M. Davis and James A. Wynn Jr. The other was Judge Diana Gribbon Motz, an appointee of former President Bill Clinton.
"They were aggressive in both directions for both sides, so I don't draw any great concern about that," Cuccinelli said at a news conference after the hearings.
The Richmond-based 4th Circuit has historically been viewed as the nation's most conservative appeals court, but recent Democratic appointments have steered it more toward the ideological center - a trend that was in evidence in the packed courtroom Tuesday.
"This was certainly a favorable draw for the government," said Kevin Walsh, an assistant professor of law at the University of Richmond who attended the hearings. "All three judges appeared more skeptical of the challengers' argument and more accepting of the federal government's."
Liberty attorney Mathew Staver, like Cuccinelli, downplayed the makeup of the panel.
"I don't think it should matter at the end of the day whether they are appointed by Republicans or Democrats, conservative or liberal," he said. "There is no case in our history that forces a person to buy a product, and that's the question they're going to have to wrestle with."
Thirty-one lawsuits have been filed challenging the law, and nine of those have been appealed, but the two Virginia cases are the first to reach the argument stage in a federal appeals court. The judges are expected to rule within a few weeks.
In what amounted to a dress rehearsal for the U.S. Supreme Court, which both sides agree will have the final word, Staver and Virginia Solicitor General Duncan Getchell Jr. argued that Congress exceeded its authority under the Constitution in requiring individuals to buy health insurance. U.S. Acting Solicitor General Neal Kumar Katyal argued in both cases that the mandate is a valid exercise of congressional authority under the Commerce Clause.
Liberty, which opposed the law as an employer that would be affected by its provisions, is appealing U.S. District Judge Norman Moon's ruling upholding it. The Justice Department is appealing U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson's decision striking down the insurance mandate in the case filed by Cuccinelli. Hudson left the rest of the voluminous health care law intact.
The appeals panel focused on the individual mandate in the Liberty appeal, which it heard first, and devoted most of its attention in the second case to the question of whether Virginia had standing to sue based on a state statute that was passed to circumvent the federal law.
Staver told the panel that the federal law exceeds the bounds of the Commerce Clause by regulating "economic inactivity" - a person's decision not to buy a product. He said the law "forces inactive bystanders into the stream of commerce."
But Katyal said people are already involved in commerce as consumers of health services, and that's what the law regulates. The only question is who pays for the services, he said, and the law aims to reduce the $45 billion a year in health care costs run up by the uninsured. Those costs add about $1,000 a year to the average family premium of those who do buy insurance, Katyal said.
Staver said that if the government can force people to buy insurance, it also can force them to buy other products - healthy foods or a gym club membership, for example, if the government determines that obesity is a major problem. He said "there would be no limit" to what the government could require citizens to buy.
However, Wynn suggested that Staver's claim overlooks a key point in the government's argument - that virtually everyone, at some time, will consume health care services.
"You can't make the argument that, in the aggregate, people are going to be obese or unfit," he said.
In the morning's second hearing, Getchell Jr. said the Virginia General Assembly had a right to pass a law declaring that the state's citizens could not be compelled by the government to buy insurance. He said the authors of the Constitution intended for the federal courts to be arbiters of such conflicts over state sovereignty.
"If federal court is not the forum, there's no forum," he said.
Katyal said that if Virginia's tactic is allowed to stand, states will be able to pass laws exempting their citizens from the war in Afghanistan, paying Social Security taxes or any other federal policy they don't like.
The cases could reach the Supreme Court in time for a decision by early summer 2012.
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Associated Press Writer Dena Potter contributed to this report.
© 2011 The Associated Press.
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